Now that’s really touching. newbies unite! May I join?
Btw when I first met you at SU, you had 100+ friends and 1000+ points and I was only starting (and SU was the first social place I joined). So who is a newbie?
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Sphinn Underdogs Part2
By Kimberly Bock | March 16, 2008
This is a follow up to yesterdays post “Are You The Underdog in Sphinn? Where’s YOUR Vote?“.
There have been many responses and varied opinions. So I thought I’d address them one by one by way of a part 2 post.
Barry: Thank you for acknowledging that it’s a ‘good cause’ and something ‘we all need to work on whatever our position on the totem pole’. Your attitude is all I am promoting here. I ahve a lot of respect for you and it grows daily.
- robojiannis Says:
March 15th, 2008 at 7:03 pm editI agree with your points, but I have to agree with Annies points. All social networks work that way; Top diggers, stumblers or sphinners have authority and more friends and sometimes call the shots.
It’s the “social” factor in social networks.
If it weren’t like that, these networks wouldn’t be social.I don’t say I find it fair though, but - yes - that’s life….
Robojiannis: Firstly, thanks for the “Stumble” and review. Much appreciated. I realize some will say they understand where both people are coming from. With that, there will be difficulty in breaking free of the habits we’ve established for ourselves in these networks.
Something that also needs to be addressed is the fact that Sphinn is designed for more than the ’social back scratching bizarre’ that seems to be so prominent.
“Sphinn is a social site for search and interactive marketers. It’s designed to allow you to share and discover news stories, read and take part in discussions, discover events of interest and network with others.”
And when someone says “That’s life” about something that is faulty, they are contributing to it as opposed to creating the process of change required to improve things. Whether it be in your backyard, online, or globally..we have personal responsibilities to improve what is within our abilities. Nothing more nothing less. Even if it’s reading just ONE newcomer post and giving it some love. (if it has earned it)
- Ann Smarty Says:
March 15th, 2008 at 8:49 pm editOk, once again,I disagree (is that only the second time with us?).[off topic] that’s Rishil not Rashil.And now copy-pasted from the Sphinn comment:
1. I do not consider myself ‘A-lister’;
2. Hello!? This is me - you were one of my first social friends and you should remember that I was among those newcomers you are talking about only 1-2 months ago
- therefore I was talking based on my own recent experience. Only because I am a newbie I feel I have the right to say that it is fair and Sphinn is an excellent place to discover newbies like myself.You cannot enter a new niche (even with excellent thoughts and ideas) and get noticed in a day - yes! that’s life and that’s what I think is really fair.
You should prove you are good by being consistent and by working hard. Life is not easy, I am sorry to say this, but it isn’t - and do you really think that’s not fair?
Yes, I read posts submitted by everyone - but I do have more trust in ‘A-listers’ as you put it because they earned my trust - just like I had to earn the trust of many people who vote for my posts.
Oh gosh, here we go yet again, ey?
[ on topic ] If you’ll notice, I’ve revised the spelling of Rishils name. Uh..er..I wouldn’t want her to be neglected of the attention she has earned. Which, btw..is the point of this entire discussion to begin with. (wink)
I was not your enemy, but you and I were not a part of your first social friends network I’m afraid. By the time I showed up, you were already involved. I was attracted to your material until you wrote “The Art of Flattering - Social Media Marketing How To” ?? If you’ll remember, I argued with your viewpoints on this because it sounded so much like “how to properly kiss *ss in social media” (my response to the flattery stuff: “What’s The A List Got That You Aint Got?“)
Yes, Sphinn is a wonderful place to discover newbies. And there’s better time than the present to optimize that potential.
You say, ” You should prove yourself good by..” ?
“Life is not easy, I am sorry to say…” ?
You think that’s fair.
I do not.
If a blog post is good, Sphinn it without prejudice. That’s what’s fair.
Getting a dose of hardship makes me want to help others to avoid it. Not tell others to deal with it when its done to them.
It’s not fair to say that unfair shit is fair.
- Dave Says:
March 15th, 2008 at 10:08 pm editI have no idea who is handing out the ‘A Lister – B Lister’ titles and could care less. My misguided mate Gabs once called me a ‘Top 20 persons to watch’ at Sphinn, a graciously generous Guru said I was ‘a top blogger you’ve never heard of’ and a confused collective labelled me a ‘social media Ninja’ – so freakin what? I hang them with my rubber chicken nomination out in the coup.This is SOCIAL media… heavy on the social and not so much on the media. That is why this type of phenomenon exists as you well know my dear. It is not about the biased editorial practices of a wayward media outlet, this is all about the community – if they want a fair shake, start your own pligg site.I read and Spinn what strikes me and often I am drawn to people with like minded interests to mine… those are my mates, thus I trust and enjoy their submissions. As for myself, I have nearly 200 submissions and can say I have drawn from a wide variety of blogs/sites in that time. Unfortunately I can only keep so many feeds in my reader and if a new wants me submitting their stuff… they simply need to get my attention as more than a few folks have.
Forget all of this silly talk of A Listers and simply start making friends and networking… it is, after all – social media :0)
Dave
Dave: I see your point. I just believe that we can optimize Sphinn without having to create a Pligg site of our own. I agree with you 100% when you say “Forget all the silly talk of A listers and simply start making friends and networking” That’s what I am trying to establish here.
- Mike Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 8:27 am editLike it or not, this will happen on all these kind of services, as everywhere counts if you’re a popular user with lots of friends or not. And i won’t call it the herd effect, but the exposure effect
Mike: Then let’s start giving newcomers exposure.
- Don Draper Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 2:15 pm editVoting sites are just like high school. You can use the same tactics.When you’re new it takes some time to break in. The best way to do that is to submit good content and build up your friends list. Hang out with the “right” people. Submit your content and message them to take a look at it. Tell the “cool” people how cool they are.I think the reason Digg is so popular is that it’s a chance for the geeks to get a re-do on high school. Marketers should already have a good handle on what works.
Don: “Build up your friends list” Bingo!
Conclusion
Are you a newcomer in Sphinn? Do you have non-spammy content that you’d like to see get more attention?
Email me at spostareduro@gmail.com or in Sphinn mail.
Send me a link to your homepage URL or drop it in the comment box here.
I’m not encouraging yet another group of back scratchers or ‘fixed’ votes mind you. But we can build a team of supporters for each other if we have something worthwhile to bring to the table. And expand the assistance in the same manner to others.
Topics: Controversy |
13 Responses to “Sphinn Underdogs Part2”
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Ann Smarty Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm -
Ann Smarty Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pmAnd btw if you want to touch upon our previous ‘online traction’, please refer to my points listed in that Sphinn submission and read it carefully to refressh your memories - I see no reason to repeat that again - but I appreciate it that you remember that case
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Kimberly Bock Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pmWe are not talking about Stumbleupon.
We are discussing Sphinn here.
You are not only off-topic, but also way off about what came first the chicken or the egg. -
Ann Smarty Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pmSame goes about Sphinn - you were the first to get active there
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Kimberly Bock Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 12:25 amAnnie, can we please not argue here? I had gotten riled up over injustice. You were just the example that spurred the discussion here.
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Ann Smarty Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 8:31 amKim, the only thing that makes me sad is that while you are trying to fight ‘the injustice’ - you are unfair to me… Besides, people do have different opinions and that doesn’t make them better or worse - what seems unfair to you seems the law of life to me… And you represented my opinion as an example of unfair treatment - and what’s more, you are now saying you don’t want to argue??? Now you are the perfect example of injustice - I am sorry but I can’t accept your point.
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Kimberly Bock Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 9:48 amI don’t consider awareness unfair Annie. This blog is for newbies. It is designed for us to learn and grow together. I stated an observation, (which happened to include you) and suggested ways to improve the situation. If not, we will continuously recycle the back scratching and wind up settling for less. Those who are being ignored in Sphinn are the ones I am concerned with. They needed to hear an alternative to the drama. Plus, those who read my blog will hear me suggest Sphinn as a place to learn and submit their own pages. This will alert them to the unfair tendencies that exist and hopefully allow them to better assess their position when entering. Justification and defense is not going to improve things. Only recycle the same.
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Ann Smarty Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:31 pm“They needed to hear an alternative to the drama.”
The alternative is work… or are you trying to tell the ‘newbies’ that read this blog that life is easy? You will be lying then. If people work, they get what they want to achieve - that’s what fair, because everyone works.
And no, you were not stating an observation, please reread both the posts…
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Kimberly Bock Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pmSome ‘newbies’ have already ‘worked’ very hard before they ever knew what SPHINN was. By the way..stay on topic with further comments, or I am refusing to publish them and / or reply.
Some people differ with you Annie. I am only one of them. People that disagree with me are also entitled. Grow up. -
Ann Smarty Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 7:29 amNo you stay on topic and don’t tell what to do. If you don’t want to publish my comments, don’t - that’s your blog; but don’t tell me what to do.
And besides I see no point in your last comment - so no, I don’t want to reply to it because there’s nothing to reply to…’
Cheers. -
Kimberly Bock Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 7:59 amok..that comment I couldn’t resist…published.
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Ann Smarty Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 9:40 amThanks dear
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Kimberly Bock Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 9:44 amNo prob
March 15th, 2008 at 5:57 pm editA good cause, Kimberly, and one that we all need to work on, whatever our position on the totem pole. I go solely by titles, so if someone wants to get my attention, then have a creative title. I’m not concerned by who started the sphinn entry or who is supporting, it’s the content that counts. Thanks for this.